Posts by stan livedeath

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My parents did not really shun me when I left but I am now breaking their hearts…

by sinboi in

if they have shunned me and chase me out of the house when i leave the cult, i would not give a damn.

i can still feel their love and concern for me even now.. though i have moved out voluntarily when i joined the army, i am afraid that the life i am living now will break their hearts.

i am now a bartender in a bar and am cohabiting with a woman.

stan livedeath

HER dream..shattered.

Theres your answer.

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Depression & Isolation

by TxNVSue2023 in

i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.

i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).

i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.

stan livedeath

Welcome back..didnt know you had left.

Happy for you for making your mind up.

Are you going to stay on here ?

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Snakes had legs until Eden curse! Watchtower 1880 till 1974!!!

by Witness 007 in

often flicking through watchtower bound volumes i would see pictures of eden which shows the snake in the tree of knowledge with legs??

even the photo drama of creation shows a snake with legs.. watchtower 1964 p.352 "genisis 3;14 {snake}on your belly you will go and dust you shall eat...before god curse it the snake had legs, that elivated it above the ground...god transformed it's body so that it ceased to have legs and was able to move on it's belly.".

god's eternal purpose 1974 "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimized by satan.. forrest gump watchtower science is price-less!.

stan livedeath

i get confused:

are Adam and Eve symbolic or literal ?

and how about the walking talking snake ?

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Snakes had legs until Eden curse! Watchtower 1880 till 1974!!!

by Witness 007 in

often flicking through watchtower bound volumes i would see pictures of eden which shows the snake in the tree of knowledge with legs??

even the photo drama of creation shows a snake with legs.. watchtower 1964 p.352 "genisis 3;14 {snake}on your belly you will go and dust you shall eat...before god curse it the snake had legs, that elivated it above the ground...god transformed it's body so that it ceased to have legs and was able to move on it's belly.".

god's eternal purpose 1974 "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimized by satan.. forrest gump watchtower science is price-less!.

stan livedeath

i never knew snakes ate dust.

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Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

by Witness 007 in

i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

stan livedeath

talking about shunning.

My ex wife shuns our son because he decided to leave.

3 of my friends from my teens / early 20's each shun one or more of their kids for the same reason.

So why would i want them as friends any more ?

All you faders still dithering on the fence for fear of losing conditional " friends" just bear in mind the cult still has that hold on you. But will jehovah remember you come armageddon ?

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Shaking Down Satan - WT Sues Norway

by Sea Breeze in

i wonder how many witnesses are aware that the wt and their team of lawyers are currently suing the government of norway for millions of dollars?

i thought that the wt taught that all the governments were run by satan.

when i was a witness, this would have really bothered me.

stan livedeath

in the picture, is a woman in a blue skirt

and a groping hand

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Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

by Witness 007 in

i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

stan livedeath

Elderberry :

Jan from Tam you don’t understand the fading or JWlite option. Yes you can openly celebrate birthdays and other things once you are known as an inactive JW with no shunning needed.
You have the best of both worlds without any disadvantages. You have more advantages than a pimi because you will be so love bombed and given all the food at gatherings
you will be offered lifts and even accommodation and things like that.

oh this is soo funny. Its YOU that dont understand jw fading.

"given all the food at gatherings " what part of the planet are you on ?

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Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

by Witness 007 in

i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

stan livedeath

f there was a situation where someone like this had drifted away and needed help with something like moving or something then the entire cong would bring food round and brothers would come and move your furniture and sisters would come and clean both the old place and the new place.

ha ha--thats ridiculous--just using people for what you can get out of them

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Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

by Witness 007 in

i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

stan livedeath

i decided in my 20-s i didnt want to be a dub any more--i had no interest in any religion--or belief in a god. Total nonsense,

I had grown up in the cult--baptised at 14, pioneered--a servant--married at 20 to a fanatical born in 3rd gen. But i was living a lie.

So--i resigned. But still attended a few meetings a year to stop the incessant nagging. No door knocking--no answering up--no praying ( which i hated anyway ). Just a bum on a seat--BUT I WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE--several other men in the hall were the same. BUT I WAS NEVER SHUNNED--by family, friends or other congregants.

This state of affairs continued for several years--till i ended up having one--an affaire that is--with one of the married sisters in the cong. Oops.

She was d.f'd--but apparently it was announced that i COULDNT be d/f--as i wasnt a JW ! Proof it had worked ! SO i was to be treated as apostate ( whatever that meant ? )---and to be treated as if d/f. Fine by me. No more meetings--ever again Free at last !

I was immediately shunned--although not by my family. My dub wife got a quick divorce--which i believe she had wanted for years. So--every body was happy.

So--back then "fading" hadnt been given that title--just something a lot of people did--rather than do something really naughty and being d/f.

Since my escape ive met lots of long term inactive jws who simply stopped going. But still identified as jw. --why not--if it makes their life easier.?

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How will J.W's spin this latest Space Discovery ?

by Phizzy in

i wonder how j.w's, and other believers in a creator god, will spin this latest discovery to fit their model ?.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67950749.

stan livedeath

jehovahs new residence.